RoboMonkey: Situation Report - Computers

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by RoboMonkey, Jun 2, 2013.

  1. RoboMonkey

    RoboMonkey Well-Known Member

    Okay.. so i recently posted this thread http://notdstarcraft.com/threads/my-computer-life-has-gone-to-hell.1542/
    Here's the more detailed situation of whats going on.

    ROBO'S COMPUTERS

    Compaq Presario Desktop (Artwork, no-internet access, windows vista, incapable of playing SC-II): IN WORKING CONDITION

    HP Pavilion G7 Laptop - (StarCraft II, Window's 7, Internet Browser): UNFIXABLE
    Problems:
    - Screen is broken (stuck in sleep mode)
    - Won't load desktop... or anything.
    - Due to repair costs, warranty exasperation, etc: the computer cant be fixed, primarily due to the fact that their is no guarantee that this wont happen again.

    So basically.. I need to get a new computer that still gotz windows 7, due to issues of SC II and windows 8 http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/8796520753

    I'd like to thank Arturia for this suggestion - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227475
    I'll take a look at it, and who knows...

    My mom is looking to purchase a new laptop from a local retailer, and if she gets one, I might be able to use her dell desktop, which would be so much better for playing SCII on than a laptop.

    I WILL BE ABLE to upload my Comic Series to NOTD using my mom's comp.. but until i get a new comp... i wont be on SC II for a while.

    Hope to see you guys again soon.

    (P.S.)- Can someone tell HarryDresden on NOTD that i havent left, but i am just unable to play SCII.
  2. squish

    squish Well-Known Member

    Robo. if you have skype, PM me the details so I can see what you got going on in your tower, then we'll discuss upgrading that tower to play SC2.
    EDIT: (combining double post)
    Also, the capability of that box will be SEVERELY bottlenecked by that 300W PSU. FX series chips are power hungry beasts, as are the 6-series HD Radeon. IT would also help to know what peripherals you have ahead of time so that I can compile you a DIY kit.
    Edit 2: Actually, as far as I can find, the 6450 is a really low powered card. You would... Hate. Every. Second. Of. That. Experience. Runs MW2 on lowest settings at 30FPS from what I hear... You'd be better off going i5-3570k or something and using the intel HD 4000 at that rate.
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  3. Addiction

    Addiction New Member

    If you live near a Microcenter you can pick up a i5-3570k for about $220 with a motherboard and pick up 4+ GB RAM for about another $40. IMO the Nvidia GTX460/560ti/660 are good cheap cards that can be found pretty cheap ($100-$200). Get a quality PSU for $50-$100 and a case (I like cheap $20-40 cases for budget builds). You can reuse the HD from your laptop with a simple 2.5" to 3.5" mount.
  4. squish

    squish Well-Known Member

    Ahh, no. The nVidia GTX 4 and 5 hundred series are garbage. Avoid. I know this because I have a 460. I shit you not when I tell you that I can overclock the GTX 260 that I also have to nearly the same capabilities that the overclocked 460 that is in my box is at now. The few reasons I use the 460 vs the 260 that I have are that it is quieter, runs dx11, is cooler, and has more memory. Were it not for those reasons, I'd STILL be using the 260.
  5. Addiction

    Addiction New Member

    They are not garbage. They are fine for budget builds and since he is playing SC2 which isn't that GPU intense it's more than adequate. I have built plenty of budget and high end computers and used the GTX 460/560ti in builds for SC2 and they run fine.
  6. squish

    squish Well-Known Member

    Are you kidding me? SC2 is one of the most GPU intense games out there when you crank it up. The source for that info? My HP laptop with an HD radeon in it QUIT because the GPU was burnt black due to it overheating so badly.
    In fact, SC2 still freezes my GTX 460 up periodically, making me have to ctrl + alt + delete to unfreeze said gfx.

    Also. Robo, I'd advise you to spring on this whilst you can, and you can upgrade from the windows 8 on it to windows 7 via format after you get the drivers for your system off the internet onto a flash drive. (It IS an upgrade. IDGAF what anyone says, windows 8 blows)

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=4903661&sku=T71-156409


    Edit 2: I don't know, and cant say for certain how powerful the HD 4000 intel graphics really are, because I've frankly never had to use them before. I'd imagine, however, that it runs SC2 at minimum, at low. You should also be able to upgrade the memory from 4GB to whatever you desire. On the plus side of that coin, a $550 i7 laptop kit koboodle and all is nothing to sneer at, period. Even without "discrete" graphics (which in notebooks is a joke, but still)

    Here's the setup I have now, with which I'm very pleased...
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1231138
  7. Addiction

    Addiction New Member

    When you crank it up. Do you think he'll be able to go more than 1920x1080 with a budget build? It's a budget build, so I don't think he'll necessarily expect to turn up the quality all the way. http://www.sc2blog.com/2010/08/02/starcraft-2-benchmarked-nvidia-geforce-gtx-460-review/ look at that benchmark 1920x1200 on ultra with physics on and it's still averaging 32 fps. With a lower screen resolution it'll be fine. http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...tarcraft-ii-gpu-performance-comparison-6.html more benchmarks with a conclusion that the GTX 460 is FINE http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...arcraft-ii-gpu-performance-comparison-10.html Check out these benchmarks showing how CPU intensive this game is http://www.techspot.com/review/305-starcraft2-performance/page13.html and http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-processor-frame-rate-performance,3427-8.html
    Edit:
    The Corsair H60 is a horrible cooler just becuase it is "watercooled" people think it's good. I'd prefer the Cooler Master 212 Evo over that as it is cheaper and with the extra money you can buy 2 good fans to use with it.
    Newegg combo deals are horrible compared to what you can save if you have a Microcenter nearby. http://microcenter.com/site/brands/intel-processor-bundles.aspx same motherboard and processor for over $100 cheaper.
  8. squish

    squish Well-Known Member

    I don't actually have the H60. I gave that to my buddy who runs a sandy bridge i7, and got an h100i

    And when I say crank it up, I mean, at 1920x1080 at extreme. I get very playable framerate. of 40-60 on extreme with my setup. I can list my exact specs for you if you like. :)

    And I see there, you like tomshardware, for which, good sir, I applaud you! :D
  9. Addiction

    Addiction New Member

    Based on the NewEgg link I'm assuming it's that plus your GTX 460. Honestly SC2 freezing doesn't necessarily mean the GPU is working hard, but more likely something that isn't stable with your computer (unstable OC, driver, etc).
  10. squish

    squish Well-Known Member

    Nah, it's not my PC that freezes, the game's video locks up and I use ctrl alt delete, which unfreezes SC2. It's weird. Like the video drivers derp.
  11. ComradeHX

    ComradeHX Well-Known Member

    Btw, for some reason my gpu does not freeze anymore(540m) when it was freezing before even on medium settings.

    Probably the new drivers.

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